What would you do?

[ennotserp]

You are in a freeroll tourney (1801 entries) with tickets to the next stage for the top 18, and a nominal payout for the next 3 players. Near the end of the tourney, you are sitting 17th - there are 23 players left with two of them (on different tables) about to be blinded out.

In the small blind you are dealt AA. BB+1 (with a larger stack than you) limps in, everyone else folds, and the tourney leader is in the big blind.

1. What would you do?

2. I completed the bet, the BB raised and BB+1 went all-in.
Now what would you do?

If you call and are beat, you could be eliminated and not cash at all. If you fold you would still be in a position to make the top 21.

[memostudd1]

Okay if it's Holdem how could be beat with AA pre flop and I would 3 bet pre Not just call.

Well that's jut my opinion.

[ennotserp]

Okay if it's Holdem how could be beat with AA pre flop and I would 3 bet pre Not just call.

Well that's jut my opinion.

How could you be beat with AA pre-flop?? You must be kidding - I have had AA cracked so many times it isn't funny. The main concern here is making the top 18. Read the post - your bet would not be a 3-bet but a 3xBB raise. You gave an answer for #1 but what about #2.

[Poker Orifice]

In spots like this I make sure to have all tables opened up on my screens & am watching very closely (to see who's gonna get blinded out & when). Deep in sattys there's often spots where there are many players with <4bb's apiece (sometimes even less than that). There are also idiots who figure it's there job to try to KO the guy that ships it pre (when in your spot there you'd obviously NEVER be shoving in without having an ABSOLUTE MONSTER... but are they thinking enough to even realize this?).
I would take this ^ stuff into consideration.
Then... I'd either shove pre... or just fold (as sick as folding will feel in that spot... especially considering we do run the risk if the other shorties manage to double up &/or get a walk).
I've been in spots where I've done both (shoved.. or folded). If they're thinking (good) players I'm more apt to shove. If they're not (which in this spot I'd 'guess' they're not... because why is the guy utg 'limping' at this point?
Some donks don't realize that they gain zero tournament equity by risking their chips vs. your's in this spot (all they're doing is helping the rest of the table & creating potential to negatively impact themselves by potentially putting themselve's in a bad spot if they call the shove & lose). I refer to these guys as 'satty bears'... they just feel the need to try to gobble up every potential chip in sight.. without thinking about any of the negative consequences.

So...with just a 'tad' more info. I'd give a more precise answer. I'm guessing here though... that I'd grudgingly fold preflop.

[Poker Orifice]

Okay.. sorry. Just re-read intial post.
Top18 get the ticket... 19-21 win minimal (but do win something).
I go for it! I shove over that donkey limper.. & if he calls & wins.. so be it! I'm pretty sure he's a HUGE fish just because he's limping in at this stage (cuz if he's a halfway decent thinker he should be considering taking advantage of the situation... 'but' maybe he can think a bit.. therefore thinks he's going to limp & be met with a table full of folds, then hope to take it down postflop (even though CL is in the BB). Perhaps he doesn't want to raise/fold pre... not wanting to invest anymore than he figures he has too. (& maybe for this reason he folds to the shove?).
Why isn't he raising? (seems odd).
Shove that AA!!! If he calls & you win, you're obviously a for sure 100% shoe in for the ticket in top18 (folding into the $'s from here on out).
Maybe this? >
80-90% of the time he calls & you win.... = ticket
10-20% of the time he calls & you lose = Zero
maybe 60-70% of the time you shove & he folds = (pretty much guar. ticket).

so... ~10-20% of that 30-40% of the time he calls.. you lose. (so maybe 3-8% of the time you're out with nothing & ~92%+ of the time you're getting a ticket)??