Did I play it Wrong or was it goin 2Happen

[Hookt4eva]

i would like to hear what you think about this HH, did i play it wrong or was this goin 2happend anyways.


PokerStars Game #19112828766: Tournament #98075135, $5.00+$0.50 Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (100/200) - 2008/07/26 - 09:15:00 (ET)
Table '98075135 1' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: fcmokkaoss (7090 in chips)
Seat 2: jessicass (7215 in chips)
Seat 3: BigKNish (4360 in chips)
Seat 5: uberhorst (1480 in chips)
Seat 7: greg208 (2470 in chips)
Seat 9: lurock2k5 (4385 in chips)
jessicass: posts small blind 100
BigKNish: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to lurock2k5 [Ad Jc]
lurock2k5 said, "vnhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh"
uberhorst: folds
greg208: folds
lurock2k5: raises 600 to 800
fcmokkaoss: calls 800
fcmokkaoss said, "ty"
jessicass: folds
BigKNish: folds
*** FLOP *** [5s Js Jh]
lurock2k5: bets 400
fcmokkaoss: calls 400
*** TURN *** [5s Js Jh] [4c]
lurock2k5: bets 1200
fcmokkaoss: calls 1200
*** RIVER *** [5s Js Jh 4c] [7h]
lurock2k5: bets 1800
fcmokkaoss: raises 2890 to 4690 and is all-in
lurock2k5: calls 185 and is all-in
Uncalled bet (2705) returned to fcmokkaoss
*** SHOW DOWN ***
fcmokkaoss: shows [7c 7s] (a full house, Sevens full of Jacks)
lurock2k5: shows [Ad Jc] (three of a kind, Jacks)
fcmokkaoss collected 9070 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 9070 | Rake 0
Board [5s Js Jh 4c 7h]
Seat 1: fcmokkaoss (button) showed [7c 7s] and won (9070) with a full house, Sevens full of Jacks
Seat 2: jessicass (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: BigKNish (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: uberhorst folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: greg208 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: lurock2k5 showed [Ad Jc] and lost with three of a kind, Jacks

[evertonian88]

Tough one, in all honesty I would've called too probably. Obviously I don't know how they guy was playing but it might have looked like you had AK and were just firing in a couple of continuation bets and then he goes all-in to test you?

I think that was really tough to get away from. He was very lucky that he didn't want to let his 7's go, and that's what paid him off in the end. Unlucky mate.

[luzipher]

I made the same "mistakes" when play a hand like this. I feel comfortable with the trips and make weak bets after the flop.
There are a flush draw in this flop, so a less than 1/4 pot bet isn't really a bet there.
I think you play your cards without take care about the villain cards (I do the same many many times). You need a bet that bring information about the villain hand. His cold call to your weak bet didn't help and you didn't know where you were there.
You had the third nuts there, only pocket 5s or J5 (he called a 4BB raise preflop, so don't think was a hand you must have worried about) beat you... but the flush draw there was scary so I think a pot bet would have been the suitable thing.

You was pot commited after the turn bet, so he had implied pot odds to call with a flush draw.

[Hookt4eva]

thax for ur input i wont let that happen again
i sholuld of went all in after the flop an that would not happen
my weak play trying to let him play into me, got me ,no-more
of that

[PokerJonny]

This is just unlucky - it happens.

He hit a 22 to 1 shot on the river.

I dont think you did anything major wrong.

The only criticism is your flop bet was too small, given there were 2 spades you should have bet more just in case he was drawing to a flush (i.e 1/2 the pot or more - this is giving him less than 3 to 1 odds - and he makes a mistake if he calls, as it turned out he make a massive mistake drawing to a 7 with 22 to 1 odds!!

i sholuld of went all in after the flop an that would not happen
my weak play trying to let him play into me, got me ,no-more

Do not do this - this is a beginners play, just bet an amount that means he is making a mistake by calling, you have to make money out of hands like this.

As for calling the all in bet - easy call, of the possible hands he could have you are beating most of them. I would have put him on KJ or a weaker J.

just bad luck, no mistakes made (just bet more on the flop)

[Hookt4eva]

This is just unlucky - it happens.

He hit a 22 to 1 shot on the river.

I dont think you did anything major wrong.

The only criticism is your flop bet was too small, given there were 2 spades you should have bet more just in case he was drawing to a flush (i.e 1/2 the pot or more - this is giving him less than 3 to 1 odds - and he makes a mistake if he calls, as it turned out he make a massive mistake drawing to a 7 with 22 to 1 odds!!



Do not do this - this is a beginners play, just bet an amount that means he is making a mistake by calling, you have to make money out of hands like this.

As for calling the all in bet - easy call, of the possible hands he could have you are beating most of them. I would have put him on KJ or a weaker J.

just bad luck, no mistakes made (just bet more on the flop)

yes thx for that, will do in the future.... if the amount of my bet after the flop would of been more/stronger maybe but i like the tought

[NateAvenson]

i would like to hear what you think about this HH, did i play it wrong or was this goin 2happend anyways.


PokerStars Game #19112828766: Tournament #98075135, $5.00+$0.50 Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (100/200) - 2008/07/26 - 09:15:00 (ET)
Table '98075135 1' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: fcmokkaoss (7090 in chips)
Seat 2: jessicass (7215 in chips)
Seat 3: BigKNish (4360 in chips)
Seat 5: uberhorst (1480 in chips)
Seat 7: greg208 (2470 in chips)
Seat 9: lurock2k5 (4385 in chips)
jessicass: posts small blind 100
BigKNish: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to lurock2k5 [Ad Jc]
lurock2k5 said, "vnhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh"
uberhorst: folds
greg208: folds
lurock2k5: raises 600 to 800
fcmokkaoss: calls 800
fcmokkaoss said, "ty"
jessicass: folds
BigKNish: folds
*** FLOP *** [5s Js Jh]
lurock2k5: bets 400
fcmokkaoss: calls 400
*** TURN *** [5s Js Jh] [4c]
lurock2k5: bets 1200
fcmokkaoss: calls 1200
*** RIVER *** [5s Js Jh 4c] [7h]
lurock2k5: bets 1800
fcmokkaoss: raises 2890 to 4690 and is all-in
lurock2k5: calls 185 and is all-in
Uncalled bet (2705) returned to fcmokkaoss
*** SHOW DOWN ***
fcmokkaoss: shows [7c 7s] (a full house, Sevens full of Jacks)
lurock2k5: shows [Ad Jc] (three of a kind, Jacks)
fcmokkaoss collected 9070 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 9070 | Rake 0
Board [5s Js Jh 4c 7h]
Seat 1: fcmokkaoss (button) showed [7c 7s] and won (9070) with a full house, Sevens full of Jacks
Seat 2: jessicass (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: BigKNish (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: uberhorst folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: greg208 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: lurock2k5 showed [Ad Jc] and lost with three of a kind, Jacks

Yes, you played it wrong.

First off, you raised AJo to 4x from MP. This is a leak in your game imo. You are mostly likely going to end up playing OOP with a weak hand in a raised pot. why would you want that.

Then on the flop there are two spades, but rather than protect against the flush draw, you bet 400 into a 1900 pot. This is a HUGE error wioll cost you tons over your lifetime.

The turn misses the flush, and again rather than protect your hand, you bet 1200 into a 2700 pot.

It's pretty obv you are beat when you get RRed at the river since there are so many hands that accomplish this: 6 boats and 2 straights

But you call anyway.

In your defense, 77 played the hand pretty poorly too, but not nearly as bad as you. He should have RRed or folded the turn.

[NateAvenson]

This is just unlucky - it happens.

He hit a 22 to 1 shot on the river.

I dont think you did anything major wrong.

The only criticism is your flop bet was too small, given there were 2 spades you should have bet more just in case he was drawing to a flush (i.e 1/2 the pot or more - this is giving him less than 3 to 1 odds - and he makes a mistake if he calls, as it turned out he make a massive mistake drawing to a 7 with 22 to 1 odds!!



Do not do this - this is a beginners play, just bet an amount that means he is making a mistake by calling, you have to make money out of hands like this.

As for calling the all in bet - easy call, of the possible hands he could have you are beating most of them. I would have put him on KJ or a weaker J.

just bad luck, no mistakes made (just bet more on the flop)

How can you say this is just unlucky? he made critical errors all over the place, starting with the preflop raise.

And then you say at the river you put hiom on KJ or a weaker J. Why would he RR KJ on the river and not the flkop to such a tiny bet? And the only weaker J's he would RR are the ones that made boats by the river. In reality, I cannot see him RR ANY hand that connot beat AJ on that river.

[DEdwardsNJ]

Yes, you played it wrong.

First off, you raised AJo to 4x from MP. This is a leak in your game imo. You are mostly likely going to end up playing OOP with a weak hand in a raised pot. why would you want that.

I definitely do not think that open raising AJo from the cutoff in a 6 handed game is a leak. He's only got the button and blinds left to act behind him and he'll have position on the blinds postflop. You need to open up your game from late position when playing short handed.

Agree with the rest of your analysis that his flop/turn bets were too weak and allowed the other donkey to catch his 2 outer on the river.

[PokerJonny]

Posted by NateAvenson

Yes, you played it wrong.

First off, you raised AJo to 4x from MP. This is a leak in your game imo. You are mostly likely going to end up playing OOP with a weak hand in a raised pot. why would you want that.

6 HANDED GAME IN CUTOFF POSITION RAISING WITH AJ IS NOT A LEAK, IN THESE SITUATIONS YOU HAVE TO OPEN UP YOUR RANGE.
IN A NORMAL 10 PLAYER GAME RAISING WITH AA-TT, AK & AQ IS TOO TIGHT FROM THIS POSITION AND PLAYERS WILL PUT YOU ON A HAND TOO EASILY, YOU HAVE TO MIX IT UP FROM LP.

Then on the flop there are two spades, but rather than protect against the flush draw, you bet 400 into a 1900 pot. This is a HUGE error wioll cost you tons over your lifetime.

OK, I STATED IN ORIGINAL POST THAT THIS BET WAS TOO SMALL, BUT BY NO MEANS A 'HUGE' ERROR.

The turn misses the flush, and again rather than protect your hand, you bet 1200 into a 2700 pot.

THIS IS STILL ON THE SMALL SIDE BUT NOT AN ERROR, TOTAL POT 3900, 1200 TO CALL BY OPPONENT IS LESS THAN 4 TO 1 NEEDED FOR THE FLUSH DRAW - OPP WAS DRAWING TO A 22-1 SHOW AS IT HAPPENS.

It's pretty obv you are beat when you get RRed at the river since there are so many hands that accomplish this: 6 boats and 2 straights

IT IS NOT OBV THAT YOU ARE BEAT AT ALL. ALSO WHEN THE RE RAISE CAME MOST OF YOUR STACK IS ALREADY IN THE MIDDLE
YOU BEAT MANY HANDS, YOU HAVE TO THINK YOU ARE AHEAD ON THE RIVER. THE ONLY REALISTIC HANDS THAT BEAT YOU ARE 44 AND 55, NO DECENT PLAYER WOULD STILL BE IN THE HAND WITH 77.

But you call anyway. IT IS ONLY 185 TO SEE A 9000 POT, I AM CALLING THIS WITH A HIGH!!!

In your defense, 77 played the hand pretty poorly too, but not nearly as bad as you. He should have RRed or folded the turn.

YOU CANNOT BE SERIOUS ABOUT THIS LAST COMMENT?

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