Wrong call?

[andosalado]

*********** # 58 **************
PokerStars Game #21023820526: Tournament #112878572, $0.10+$0.00 Hold'em No Limit - Level XI (400/800) - 2008/10/08 8:31:17 ET
Table '112878572 36' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 2: salsa6969 (15454 in chips)
Seat 3: melli2363 (14755 in chips)
Seat 4: chestnut55 (22918 in chips)
Seat 5: toninhos (6830 in chips)
Seat 6: andosalado (7003 in chips)
Seat 7: capt.raise79 (6030 in chips)
Seat 8: shadetree12 (2400 in chips)
Seat 9: jolinejuli (9285 in chips)
salsa6969: posts the ante 75
melli2363: posts the ante 75
chestnut55: posts the ante 75
toninhos: posts the ante 75
andosalado: posts the ante 75
capt.raise79: posts the ante 75
shadetree12: posts the ante 75
jolinejuli: posts the ante 75
andosalado: posts small blind 400
capt.raise79: posts big blind 800
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to andosalado [3s 3c]
shadetree12: folds
jolinejuli: folds
salsa6969: folds
melli2363: calls 800
chestnut55: calls 800
toninhos: folds
andosalado: calls 400
capt.raise79: raises 800 to 1600
melli2363: calls 800
chestnut55: calls 800
andosalado: folds
*** FLOP *** [Jh Kd Qd]
capt.raise79: checks
melli2363: checks
chestnut55: bets 3200
capt.raise79: folds
melli2363: folds
Uncalled bet (3200) returned to chestnut55
chestnut55 collected 6200 from pot
chestnut55: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 6200 | Rake 0
Board [Jh Kd Qd]
Seat 2: salsa6969 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: melli2363 folded on the Flop
Seat 4: chestnut55 collected (6200)
Seat 5: toninhos (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: andosalado (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 7: capt.raise79 (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 8: shadetree12 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: jolinejuli folded before Flop (didn't bet)


What do you think?

[derringer007]

I would say you made the right decision in folding. With pocket 3s and the flop was all over cards. The villain must be representing at least a pair, May be even flopped a straight. What ever they had you correctly folded. IMHO

[Sven00100]

You made the right decision, unless you had some sort of read into his hand, ie. a type of slow playing he only does on 100% bluffs, in which case he'd still probably have 2 over cards. 33 would only have a slight edge on over cards (unsuited unconnected) and generally with a low pair you'd want to limp and have many callers (since it's relatively useless unless you hit trips, underpair isn't worth much.) and you want a lot of money to be put in the pot later since you will only hit your trips about 1/5 times, and even when you do, you may not win, so be aware of strong straight or flush draws. ( 2/50+2/49(1-2/50)+2/48(1-2/50-2/49)+2/47(1-2/50-2/49-2/48)+2/46(1-2/50-2/49-2/48-2/47))

[pothole]

Definate auto fold. Three overcards, str8 draw, str8 flush draw and a flush draw or a made str8. The only hand you beat here is 22 and I doubt villain is holding that. If you had called the pre flop raise, you would be folding now for sure. Set mining is fine when you get in the pot cheap. Always be wary of a min raise pre from mid position and a strong 1/2 pot c-bet post flop with a board like this. I suspect Villain is holding 2 paint or A paint. You made the right move IMO.

[PokerJonny]

Nothing wrong here.

Easy call preflop and after the preflop raise.

Easy fold after you dont hit trips.

[mafalda34]

im not understanding the qestion u folded before the flop for 800 ?????

because everyone is saying u folded on the flop but from what ive read u folded before the flop from the sb because the bb made it 1600 am i wrong?

[pothole]

im not understanding the qestion u folded before the flop for 800 ?????

because everyone is saying u folded on the flop but from what ive read u folded before the flop from the sb because the bb made it 1600 am i wrong?

Incorrect, read my reply.

[j0sh1ngU]

a call preflop is fine. on the flop you are beat as trip threes didnt hit

[ennotserp]

When looking at the hand the first time, you must seriously think that after a raise and two calls in front of you, someone has to have your 33 beat. But when you consider the pot odds you are getting close to 8-1 odds on both your original call and the call after the raise. A second call preflop may be warranted, hoping to flop a set, but after missing the flop, a fold is best.

[eking657]

Right or Wrong call..

Let me ask you this, if the same situation would happen again, would you fold or call?
The simple answer is this, if in any stage of the hand you feel uncomfortable playing (not thinking you had the worst hand, just uncomfortable) then i suggest youthrow and wait for the next hand..

well thats how i play anyway

cheers