Poker players on tv never...ever say anything about online poker being rigged...WEIRD

[jbjj]

I guess this is true bc they already sponsor them quick...grab em right up and pay them good to wear their logos at final tables. Great money to turn down and in vice versa they would'nt ever say they thought it was rigged after they hit it big. But everyone i talk to in person that plays online at poker stars thinks it's rigged. And all seem convinced!!

And they're good players to. I just think Poker Stars cares only about the player base. They dont want to lose players so donks get to win more. Stars is making billions. If they cared about the player there would be alot less turbos.


All they care about is money. Even the FPP points you can use for satelites..are all mostly turbos. You earned those points by saving up and they reward w turbos only bc their not making any entry fee money. What a freaknin joke!!!


Stars will get busted one day

[Whatsthepassword?]

Stars will get busted one day

I wouldn't hold your breath waiting. Thousands of people around the world have got their suspicions about PokerStars, but it is almost impossible to prove they are rigging games.

The only way to prove they are crooked is if an insider comes right out and admits it, providing proof from their software and database. But this isn't going to happen any time soon...

It would be great to have an industry regulator who could do spot checks on PokerStars and Full Tilt, seize and examine their software and maybe throw in a few lie detector tests.

If it is an honest operation, this would put to rest all those claims of rigged deals and house bots. If PokerStars and Full Tilt are found not to be honest, they should have the book thrown at them, their assets seized and their executives thrown in jail for a very long time.

[Poker Orifice]

THere's no benefit to rigging a site. How come none of the online regulars who are winning ever whine about the sites being rigged?
Sure you will often see a ton of badbeats & crazy suckouts. This isn't the site.. it's the players who are willing to get it in bad... and most often in the micro levels but you will see it in higher buyin levels too... just not as much of it (ie. in the $23KOguar. on Fulltilt.. $75 buyin MTT... I'd say half the field is good/regular MTT players.. but some of the others are hugely losing players and play terribly).

As far as turbos go..... alot of players prefer playing turbos. If they didn't, the site wouldn't have them. (if people didn't like playing turbos, the tables would never fill up and then the site wouldnt' bother with them obviously).

I don't play much on Pokerstars (only rolled on there well enough to play micro levels.... $5 & $10 sngs & MTTs) but I will say that the tournament structures offered on Pokerstars are actually quite good (you'll find alot of tourneys that have 3,000 chip starting stacks with 15min. levels.... this is pretty good imo... much better than on alot of other sites where you're not going to see 15min. levels unless you're playing a $200 buyin MTT).

As far as FPPs.... I've never bothered to look into what value they have and only ever use them to buy stuff from their store (shirts/hats) but I don't play on there much. I have heard though from regs. who play on there that the FPP program pays out pretty good to folks who are regularly playing cash tables on the site and low buyin levels (not micro... ie. 50NL, & 100NL for example). FPPs are just a freebie bonus anyways.

[Poker Orifice]

Alot of the poker pros you see on TV don't play alot of online poker... but others do and you'll find them on the nosebleed stakes (500/$1000 blinds). Do you think they'd play for 1/2 million dollar pots if they figured the sites were rigged?

Also.... alot of the poker pros you'll see on TV playing deep in a big MTT are actuallly players who've come up through the ranks by playing online poker and have played TONS of tournaments online from which they've gotten rolled from (ie. Kevin Saul who you'll often see on TV in tournaments... tons of others as well). Pretty sure none of these guys are complaining about the sites being rigged.

[rgchan]

Many Pro,s like to play HU for big stakes online where its not much to do about the cards anyway.Plus it would be pretty hippocritical for them to say its rigged and accept all there Swag.I bet/wonder if they get deals on Rake when they play.
I prefer Turbo in games like HORSE. I prefer only 5 mins between legs.
Rg

[Poker Orifice]

Many Pro,s like to play HU for big stakes online where its not much to do about the cards anyway.Plus it would be pretty hippocritical for them to say its rigged and accept all there Swag.I bet/wonder if they get deals on Rake when they play.
I prefer Turbo in games like HORSE. I prefer only 5 mins between legs.
Rg

The Fulltilt Pros play 'zero' rake while playing on the tables.

[LombardiStix]

THere's no benefit to rigging a site.

Exactly. To figure this lil fact out all you have to do is step outside your little "woe is me" world and look at the facts. They've already got your money and plenty of it. No rigging needed friend.


Stix

[illphillllllll]

my opinion on people who think online poker is rigged is that you are not good enough to beat the game and can't admit it to yourself. even sadder is the people who say its rigged and continue to play for money, if you believe your getting ripped off and still playing then your a sucker. i'm sure there is collusion by players on some sites but a site would never rip off its customers and risk getting caught and losing their clientele.

[timtnt]

I don't believe the games are rigged. There are just more bad beats and sux outs at the micro and low levels because of the # of ppl involved in each hand. The mathimatics support the over all out come for total # of hands being played.

[mordansdadPFRW]

in answer to the rigged theory
i have suffered badbeats on every site i play on
if u have kk v aq kk is approx 2/1 favourite
but if u get kk back to back v ace rag u are only 4/9 to win both hands
this is because you are 2/3 for the first hand
and 2/3 for the second hand(2/3x2/3)
the odds on the ace rag winning twice is 1/9(1/3x1/3)
the odds of winning 1 and losing 1 is 4/9 the same odds of the kings winning twice.
its variance thats all

aa v 22 aces to win 3 times is nigh on the same as a single coin flip.

most people dont see that all they see is im a big favourite here and forget how many times the odds have already given them their percentage.