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01-17-2010 05:48 PM #11
I have to agree with Phil here for best Post.Nice Post Phil well stated.!! Stick with your lists of starting hands though and you can,t go too far wrong.Its ABC poker, good for beginners and will work for a Cash Ring game for example.But if you want to play with all the other 4king Forum players here who all know each others games you will have to mix it up a little,I also like the 4-5 suited hands and small pocket 3,s if i can see a cheap flop because they can be Monsters as Hoje stated.I don,t know how many times i have been in the SB and folded a crap hand like 4-7o for example when it was just 75 more chips to call the BB and a limper only to curse the 5,6,8 flop.
Some great players here at 4king and there always evolving changing their games up,,
Rg
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01-18-2010 01:11 AM #12
Like illllll said. decent players will watch this and know what you play limp raise whatever and those rags as you called them are the exact hands to call an overly tight player with. There is a good online friend of mine that did this and always wondered why I was calling with them mess I called with. My answer was simple. Rag flop I know you missed unless you have an over pair. Then I can play my hand accordingly. Reply was that made sense so they seemed to change up the game a little. Throwing in enough of the "offbeat" hands to cause me to slow down doing that. ABC poker is great, but what do you do when you are having a bad run of cards? Blind out? You have to change things up IMHO becoming predictable at any level is a death sentence. Mtt's and sng's are not as much trouble because of moving tables but after so long people will have note on your tight play and run into you again. Ring super tight will just kill your bankroll, I play pretty tight most of the time but at time you have to show people that you will do something off the wall and not stick with the top few hands. You said something about badbeats, we all go through them, but when you play this tight thats the way to beat you, play some low suited cards and watch that top pair top kicker you hold fall.
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01-29-2010 09:34 PM #13
I agree. Sticking to a starting hand chart might be okay for a rank amateur but as one's game progresses there's way more to consider.
Folding AJ, AT in early position in early levels... and never calling EP raises with them is probably a 100% given... also not calling preflop raises with low pp's if you're not getting the implied odds to do so (effective stack sizes not deep enough... ie. if stacks aren't 15x deeper than the raise..... or perhaps 10x deeper in certain scenarios)... and tons of other stuff... but as far as considering, 'this is what I play from 'x' position'... in tournament play (mtt/sng) I don't think this would be a good way to play. Perhaps in Fullring cash game you might consider having a chart in early stages of your playing experience, having an idea of what hands are going to be profitable based on position (ie. what hands we're opening with from 'x' position, etc.).Brad Booth - > "Like a fight... it's not how you start, it's how you finish"


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