A6s through A9s

[ND1991]

I am looking for opinions here. I rarely play hands like this. The only upside I see is the flopped nut flush or a 4 flush draw to a nut flush. If the A hits, I am likely outkicked. If the kicker hits, it can easily be middle or bottom pair.

I am curious what others think about these hands. When to play them and how to play them. Specifically as it relates to ring/cash games (although tournament comments welcome, but I will play these for cheap in a tournament with the hope of flush).

Thanks!

[ennotserp]

Tend to agree with you, especially in ring games with a full complement of nine or ten players (the exception being heads up). If the table consisted of six players, I might play them in middle or late position, depending on the circumstances. In Sit n Gos, I usually wait until there are less than 8 players left at the table before thinking about playing them. Also think if you are very short stacked, it is time to push.

[Peteyweestro]

i usually fold those unless i am in late position and not many others went in or the call isn't to expensive, but i would only consider it really with the A9. In tournies if it is still early i may call or if its late and i am sitting on a real short stack i would push.

[kingmotan]

I always limp the suited ones, and always fold the offsuit. Only time I might raise is from the btn. Sometimes I even fold it from Sb because I don't want to play that garbage oop.
In tournaments and sng it's a whole other story. It all depends on the stack, how deep in, ITM or not.. those things.
And Petey, the more ppl limp, the more odds you get to call. If someone min raises in UTG and 5 ppl call, and you find yourself in the BTN with 67o, you should call, because you have pot odds and huge implied odds!!

[rgchan]

All the same solid advice here concerning the Cash games. But I cannot tell you how often the Ace-rag unsuited hands still beat me in loose tournament play. Hit top pair on the Flop like K,s or Q,s and some players will still call chasing the ACE. And its sickening how often an ACE hits the river. Its bad playing and fortunately these players usually never go on to win or place in the tournaments but they do hurt some players quite often.
Rg

[Poker Orifice]

i usually fold those unless i am in late position and not many others went in or the call isn't to expensive, but i would only consider it really with the A9. In tournies if it is still early i may call or if its late and i am sitting on a real short stack i would push.

Actually this is the kind of 'speculative' hand that you would want alot of players in the hand with you (if you're able to call an EP raise with more than 1 caller... great!.. as long as table isn't very aggressive where there's almost always someone comin' in with a squeeze.. although less likely if orig. raiser was in EP). You're not calling here in hopes of hitting your Ace... but instead are hoping to take down a big pot vs. someone who can't get away from an overpr. or TPTK type hands. The more in the pot the better with a hand like this.

As far as how I tend to play them.... first off it really does 'depend'... it depends upon the table dynamics (how the play has generally been), what players are to my left, what players are opening ahead of me.. what my table image is (or what I want to make it out to be), etc. For simplified speaking.... I would raise in LP if first in and as mentioned above, I would call behind for sure in a multiway pot. I'd also consider 3-betting a weak player who's opened, one who I'm hoping to isolate to play headsup on the flop w position on them (or to raise up a weak limper.. for same reasons).

btw... the above is for cash game play, tournament/sng would be another ebook.

[azerny]

I guess it depends on how much it costs to get in. You are either hoping for the flush or a set. If you have A6 and flop two 6's...thats a well disguised hand.

[BluffYou123]

I'll usually fold these hands as they often get you in trouble. I do try to get in cheap in late position. As stated already, you're really just trying to hit the flush. It can be horrible when you hit trip Aces/weak kicker cos it's very hard to fold when you're beat.

[Dan Abnormal]

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Hand#23558967D9000043 - -- Table 1 -- $0/$15/$30 NL Hold'em -- 2010/09/16 - 18:15:42
Shawn Vinyl: posts small blind 15
road***1: posts big blind 30
Dealt to Shawn Vinyl [Th,Ah]
bass***3: folds
thju***5: folds
pric***6: calls 30
P0KE***8: raises to 135
Shawn Vinyl: calls 120
road***1: folds
pric***6: folds
*** FLOP *** [8h,3s,5h]
Shawn Vinyl: bets 165
P0KE***8: raises to 825
Shawn Vinyl: calls 660
*** TURN *** [2c]
Shawn Vinyl: checks
P0KE***8: is all in 810.0000
Shawn Vinyl: is all in 510.0000
P0KE***8: returns uncalled bet 300
P0KE***8: shows [Qs Qc]
Shawn Vinyl: shows [Th Ah]
*** RIVER *** [5c]
***SHOW DOWN***
P0KE***8: wins 3,000 with Two Pairs, Queens and Fives
P0KE***8 chats: "gg"
Shawn Vinyl finished 12 out of 12 players.