800 dollar bankroll WHAT would U do

[sos_egg_n]

Hi all,
i have 800 dollar bankroll left on pokerstars.

If u had 800 dollar bankroll what tourneys would u play

question 1 - What buyin amount would u go for (sit n go)

question 2 - What size tourneys (sit n go)



as i do not know if u have a better roi from playing bigger tourneys or if as a rule it works out to a better hourly rate than sit n gos


Any suggestion and help welcome

Rgds

Sos

[sos_egg_n]

sorry should clarify do u makw more on 27 player games than 9 player games ...roi and hourly rate

[Limey777]

Hi all,
i have 800 dollar bankroll left on pokerstars.

I have to ask, you stated you have 800 left which implies you're on a losing streak. I would consider that information to be relevant to the answers/advice you're about to receive as far as what stakes you should be at.

With that kind of bankroll I'd be comfortable playing $10-$11 3 tables. If I'm having a bad run I may feel better dropping down to $5-$6
I don't play the SnG's much anymore but when I do I seem to do better on single table.

[Logan]

In 9 players pay top3 wich means pay 33% of field
in 27players pay top5 wich is 18% of field

So looking in this way you have chance to cash more often in 9 players than 27 players, but 9 players it only pays 2x,3x5x and 27 players pay 2x, 3x, 4x, 6x, 10x, means ROI is 2 times bigger in 27players for the winner, but also it depends your ITM% in each one to see where you can do more. If was cake i would say 10players better, because there pay top4 wich is 40% of the field and increase your chances a lot to cash more often, but if pays are 3 then go to 27 players.

About hourly rate it depends more if you are playing normal games or turbo, and how many tables. For me it looks i need to play 2 tables of 9 players to reach the roi i get from 1 table of 27players, so if play 3 tables of 27 players need to play 6 tables of 9players to reach the same roi. But also need to look time, it takes 35-45 minutes to end a 9player game, and it takes around 55-65 minutes to end the 27players, so need to balance that and also where do you feel more confortable playing.

In my case i prefeer 27 players than 9 players, i feel need to play less games to reach same goal, also from a tracker point of view if i don´t know any player from a 9players table i can end the game and still don´t have much info on players, but with 27 players at the time you reach final table you have enough stats to can help you wich increase your ITM%.

So answering your questions, with $800 probably play in 1 table of $22 buyin/27 players, or if think can cash more often play 2 tables of $11buyin/27players , when reach $1000 probably can put a 3rd table, or can play 4 tables of $5/27players.

This is taking a 40buyins BR management, if was my $ i probably do it with 50buyins but im more conservative.

About # of tables it depends of any individual, limey mention he do better with 1, in my case i have a better ITM% with 2 than 1, still better with 3 than 1, but in 4 i start to go down, probably because for me with 1 i get bored easy and blow it, with 2 or 3 my focus is 100% in the game, but with 4 start to have trouble, so this is up to you.

Make a plan, use BR management and good luck.

[pirates831]

cash out, take a trip and be happy before stars takes it all away.

[sos_egg_n]

Cheers Logan i am used to ridiculous multitabling and single sit n gos turbos but am not profiting / nor losing just breakin even forever so will now play 4 tables (non turbo) at any 1 time as i get far to bored otherwise and as i am delluding myself that i am ok player i feel tho luckboxes will do best in 1 table turbos than any other game...hence im moving on

I am thinking more players the better roi as tourneys always end quicker ratio wise ie a 27 player game does not take 3 times as long as a 9 man sit n go etc. This is the only logic i can see so if i had 3 hours to play u may aswell play in biggest tourney available in ur time limit.

20 dollar is not a bad shout but i am like u as i always want AT LEAST 50 buyins preferably 100 so think i will play in between 5, 10 , 20 dollar averaging 10 dollar overall


Thanks for the advice as for Pirate i could take my money and run with a weekend in skegness (A beutiful uk hotspot hmmm) but i want the round the world cruise

Pirates - am gonna play on a take the gamble Whooping applause from the audience...Climaxing deep beated music to get the atmosphere....i look up and can see the confetti on hold i place down my toaster and kettle (which i won in earlier round). Look over to the hot models they have working there..i can see her lips moving giving me her room number begging me to turn up there later.......I stand tall and say look bit*h if i dont win this money am stuck in skegness for a weekend Now let me concentrate fool.

Will it be skegy or the cruise ------ Watch this space (not literally as i prob wont update but sounded the right was to close this out even if not quite qan accurate one)

Rgds

Sos

[Logan]

I am thinking more players the better roi as tourneys always end quicker ratio wise ie a 27 player game does not take 3 times as long as a 9 man sit n go etc. This is the only logic i can see so if i had 3 hours to play u may aswell play in biggest tourney available in ur time limit.

Yes and no, 27 players it does end in quicker ratio like you mention, and bigger games than this also will have bigger roi, but also need to consider your ITM% wich will go down with more# of players and this could hurt your mind for future games, so you need to have middle grown. At least i can´t play just big #players games even if have better roi because will cash left often, and yes maybe 1 time you cash in a bigger game will be better or same like 3-5 times you cash in 27 but my mind need cash often to stay healthy and feel im doing ok.

In other words.

If have 3 hours to play i prefeer to play 2-3 tables of 27 players and in the 3 hours maybe can run 2 rounds or 3 of this wich means 6-9 games, versus run only 1 or 2 bigger games (lets say 160 players each).

In paper maybe the 2 bigger games will have bigger roi, but also need to consider that you will cash maybe 1 time from 3 in the 27 and 1 on 6 from the bigger game, so one day from the 6-9 games played you probably will cash avg of 2-3 games, but from the 2 bigger games you could not cash in any of the 2 for 3 str8 days and cash in the 4 day wich will be normal, but if you have a bad str8 and you don´t cash for 10 str8 games, then in the 27 means you will not cash 1 day wich not hurt much, but if you have the same bad str8 and don´t cash in the bigger games for 10 games (or more) means will not cash for a week or more, and in your mind could hurt more than if just not cash 1 day even if in $ your making the same.

Maybe don´t look important but at least for me having a bad week when no cash in any game it hurt my mood for future games and then bring more bad results, thats why not try much the larger games, but maybe the best is to mix it up, if have 3 hours could play 1 big game and also 2 or 3 of the 27 players games wich will increase chances to cash and also to get a big roi.

Hope it makes any sense.

[Poker Orifice]

For MTT play:
$10+1 largefield MTT's
&
$3 rebuy (< of course!).

SNG's... idk.. I don't play very often on Stars. I like the 45's on Fulltilt (non-turbo) & haven't found anything comparable on Stars (I suppose the 180 non-turbo would be somewhat similiar .. to a degree). I'm not into the turbo 45's on Stars.... might as well play SuperTurbo 9man's on Fulltilt (basically same game once the blinds go up in the 45's). I've noticed that there'll be some players in those turbo 45's who have put together a decent roll from playing them (mass-multitablers no doubt).. bump into around 10 of them in each 45 I've played (if I go somewhat deep in it). TONS of randoms too... playing the worst possible poker you could ever see.

I'm considering playing a bit more on Pokerstars this coming month (was going to start today actually).. and for me I'm going to try to play ~4 or 5 MTT's at a time, the $10 buyins, & the $3 rebuys, maybe the $5 12:00est too. Not rolled for anything much bigger on that site.... took a shot at some SCOOPL and bombed in each but was doing great but of course it only takes on major donking to become crippled which was the case in each that I played (going deep in it... decent stack.. then AA/KK runs into 88 that flops their 8, allin preflop... sigh.. but is the nature of MTT play... hence why one 'should' have at least 50buyins although these days I hear the MTT regs. suggesting at least 100buyins in your roll (makes sense).

GL!

[hojediade]

I thought hourly rate in SnGs was really dependent from multitabling?
The more games you play, the lower you ROI should go but regards on # of tables, you should be profiting better? Or did i miss something? To me playing with an hourly rate in mind would led me to cash tables, no doubt.
What's your goal by the way? $20/hour?
I'm not that wise about how to manage such a BR myself and won't give any other advice on that, but i think you have to know what's your goal to really define which games to play accordingly to your ROI and BR.

[Logan]

The more games you play, the lower you ITM should go but regards on # of tables, you should be profiting better?

I don´t understand this Hoje, why your ITM% should go down if play more games?.