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    Default HOW can I make people give me money on this but not scare them

    I had to split the pot to get any action, What would a winner do here


    Stage #C16039970: Holdem No Limit $0.02 - 2010-05-22 00:23:21 (ET)
    Table: HILL RD (Real Money) Seat #9 is the dealer
    Seat 9 - STEPHNKG ($1.90 in chips)
    Seat 1 - JB1FORYOU ($2.33 in chips)
    Seat 2 - CHASER26 ($1.94 in chips)
    Seat 3 - WEATHERGUYAUS ($2.65 in chips)
    Seat 4 - TUTUNO ($2.57 in chips)
    Seat 5 - ROSS739 ($3.82 in chips)
    Seat 6 - SMOKINWILLAA ($3.34 in chips)
    Seat 8 - EUGENESELDOM ($1.96 in chips)
    JB1FORYOU - Posts small blind $0.01
    CHASER26 - Posts big blind $0.02
    *** POCKET CARDS ***
    Dealt to EUGENESELDOM [10s Kd]
    WEATHERGUYAUS - Folds
    TUTUNO - Folds
    ROSS739 - Calls $0.02
    SMOKINWILLAA - Calls $0.02
    EUGENESELDOM - Calls $0.02
    STEPHNKG - Calls $0.02
    JB1FORYOU - Calls $0.01
    CHASER26 - Checks
    *** FLOP *** [Jc Qd Ah]
    JB1FORYOU - Checks
    CHASER26 - Checks
    ROSS739 - Checks
    SMOKINWILLAA - Checks
    EUGENESELDOM - Checks
    STEPHNKG - Checks
    *** TURN *** [Jc Qd Ah] [9d]
    JB1FORYOU - Checks
    CHASER26 - Checks
    ROSS739 - Checks
    SMOKINWILLAA - Checks
    EUGENESELDOM - Checks
    STEPHNKG - Checks
    *** RIVER *** [Jc Qd Ah 9d] [10h]
    JB1FORYOU - Bets $0.06
    CHASER26 - Folds
    ROSS739 - Folds
    SMOKINWILLAA - Folds
    EUGENESELDOM - All-In(Raise) $1.94 to $1.94
    STEPHNKG - All-In $1.88
    JB1FORYOU - Folds
    EUGENESELDOM - returned ($0.06) : not called
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    EUGENESELDOM - Shows [10s Kd] (Straight, ten to ace)
    STEPHNKG - Shows [7d Kh] (Straight, ten to ace)
    EUGENESELDOM Collects $1.88 from main pot
    STEPHNKG Collects $1.87 from main pot
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total Pot($3.94) | Rake ($0.19)
    Board [Jc Qd Ah 9d 10h]
    Seat 1: JB1FORYOU (small blind) Folded on the RIVER
    Seat 2: CHASER26 (big blind) Folded on the RIVER
    Seat 3: WEATHERGUYAUS Folded on the POCKET CARDS
    Seat 4: TUTUNO Folded on the POCKET CARDS
    Seat 5: ROSS739 Folded on the RIVER
    Seat 6: SMOKINWILLAA Folded on the RIVER
    Seat 8: EUGENESELDOM won Total ($1.88) All-In HI$1.88) with Straight, ten to ace [10s Kd - B:Ah,P:Kd,B:Qd,B:Jc,P:10s]
    Seat 9: STEPHNKG (dealer) won Total ($1.87) All-In HI$1.87) with Straight, ten to ace [7d Kh - B:Ah,P:Kh,B:Qd,B:Jc,B:10h]

    THIS WAS MY HAND ON THE FLOP BUT SLOW PLAYING I at least got to split a pot BUT DAMN
    Last edited by Dan Abnormal; 05-22-2010 at 04:29 AM.

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    I think you played the hand good. Slip pot is never a lost but taking the pot is always Great. Real money games you are going to have everyone watching you. Best thing I would tell you would be to gain respect with good playing hands. Show only 3 or 4 of ur best hands. Then the Bluffing can begin if you think you can out play who ever is in the pot. Watch for the small post flop bets. Watch every player and pick out the tight player. He/She will assume your have the best hand and fold. But dont play around and loose your stack.

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    Been there many a time. You want to bet small to keep the other players around. Unfortunatley the 10 killed the slow play and the value of your hand. I would do the same again. They won,t always hit. Well played.
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    I think the check in Flop was ok, but you should bet in turn.

    After the 9 come in turn you have a flush draw in the board, if some one have a AX probably will pay in turn, if some one had the J or Q make them pay, if some one had the flush draw make them pay if want to continue.

    4 players check before you in turn, if you check also you are giving another free card, if they donīt pay in turn in that board will not pay still in River, your hand will not improve any more but they can, what if another diamond come in river?, you still pay the allin?, what card could come in river that could help them to pay you in river but not in turn?

    If they already hit something will pay you in turn, if not still will not pay in river unless hit hard.

    I bet the guy was happy that you split the $ with him for free.
    Last edited by Logan; 05-28-2010 at 03:23 AM.

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    I would have pushed all in on the turn, giving 2 free cards when holding the nuts is a mistake. All that could beat you was a flush or 2pr chaser and if they make it on the river make notes and punish them later. No disgrace to get your money in good and lose to a tool.

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    this hand was played very poorly in my opinion. at these low limits you are going to run into players who will make mistakes and pay off when behind. for starters there are 6 players who see the flop, there is a good chance if you put out a small bet you will be called by 1 or more players. on the turn when the 9d comes out it puts a flush draw and an open ended straight draw to a player holding a 10 on board. with a board this wet there is a great chance of being called by someone, checking the turn here your giving any drawing hand or set a chance to improve. on the river you still have the nuts but make another big mistake, you reraise allin when in most cases the only time you will be called is when your splitting the pot. value bet your hand and you might have someone call who doesn't have the king, you actually lost money to the rake by pushing allin. you had 2 people reply here and tell you you played it well, they are wrong and their bankroll prolly proves it. the only time you slowplay the nuts is if you have a very aggressive player behind you and your pretty sure he will be firing out a bet.
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    SOme great food for thought here, See I think I played this hand wrong too I just cant figure out, how to slowly keep them in the pot because it had to known what I had. These value bets really blow my mind, by pushing all in I lost money to the rake (I CANT DO THIS CRAP LIVE)

    SO am I correct in what your saying, I should pushed a small post flop bet and what kind of bet should I done at the turn, Youre saying I shouldnt be pusing all in, what kind of bet would made this hand the most valuable (IF YOU HAVE SOME EASY TO UNDERSTAND DETAILS ON THIS PLEASE SPELL IT OUT, IM SERIOUS) cause Im sure im giving TOO MUCH RAKE at the card room also (maybe not its limit but still) STUFF like this never really crosses my mind when I push all in

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    OK IM going to try this

    POCKET 10s Kd (Im out to lunch on even playing these pocket but)

    FLOP Jc Qd Ah
    TUrn 9d
    River 10h
    OUTS- STRAIGHT MADE
    0% chance for FLUSH

    GREAT EXAMPLE, Im straight made on the flop
    WHAT OUTS DO I EVEN CARE ABOUT flopwise to beat what i have

    I NEEDED THIS SHUT DOWN ON THE FLOP

    SO would I be right, the only person who might of had something at the River would of been SEAT 1 since he waas the only person to put out some kind of feeler bet. Maybe a pair or possible played a 8-?? and had a straight to queen but when he bet and Iwent all in, he knew I had the straight to ace. With me not making a bet on the flop I let Seat #9 get 1/2 of everyones money but mine and his. So on the flop I might have been able to shut it down or still had seat #9 chasing me but I would of been ahead until the river, so If he bet the flop with me, I should of turned up the heat on the Turn (but if all folded all but him post flop what kind of bet would turn of the heat to make it worth my money) and that might have folded him. BUT LET ME SEE I was going to say I left him great opportuinity to catch me but really my bet should not been more than .06 or maybe no more than .10 since that was the only raise .06 and then it would of been bad play on seat #9 for pushin all in or would he have probably just called my .10 knowing I couldnt be better than his hand.

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    I hate the call preflop & I hate the river shove.

    You have to try to start building a pot with a big hand (especially in a multi-way pot). If someone hasn't caught a piece of it, it's highly unlikely you'll make much from the hand anyways.
    Checking on the flop... maybe, BUT for sure you must bet the turn. There's also the possiblity that someone has flopped or turned a set, flopped a pr., a draw, etc.... who knows. You have to start building a pot.
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    What possible hand that you beat would be calling the HUGE overshove you made on the river? (in other words, what type of hand were you thinking you could get any value from by overshoving here?..... answer = none imo).
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