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    I was watching a NL game on TV the other day, comment was by Mike Sexton, anyway there were 3 players left.

    First player folds, Second calls, Third raises with K10 off.

    Second goes all in.

    It costs the third player 3 to 1 to call and Mike says he's getting the right price.
    I don't understand this, I would only call when I'm getting 2 to 1, 3 to 1 is a lot with a weak holding like K10 off.

    What am I missing ?

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    3 to 1= "getting the right price"


    means he is, if he wins he will get 3 times the money it cost him to make the call


    atleast i think im right on this.....lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingjames07 View Post
    3 to 1= "getting the right price"


    means he is, if he wins he will get 3 times the money it cost him to make the call


    atleast i think im right on this.....lol
    Thats the way i see it. 3 to 1 return on a bet seems to be good pot odds IMO.

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    OK I already understand that part , let's say there's 900 in the pot and it costs you 300 to call, 3 to 1 pot odds.

    But I don't understand the call with K10 os, there aren't that many hands you are a favourite against.

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    Well 3 handed K 10 is not as weak as you may think and with the addition of the nice pot odds he made the call. Hands are ALWAYS relative. I hope I helped a little.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hattirohanza View Post
    It costs the third player 3 to 1 to call and Mike says he's getting the right price.
    I don't understand this, I would only call when I'm getting 2 to 1, 3 to 1 is a lot with a weak holding like K10 off.
    What am I missing ?
    It's not costing the player 3-1 odds - he is getting pot odds of 3-1 (the right price) - the higher the pot odds, the better.
    Eg. Say a gut-shot straight draw is 5-1 after the flop and 10-1 after the turn (approximate odds against). If the pot odds are > 5-1, or > 10-1, then it may be worth calling the bet, so when you say you would only call with LOWER odds, - big mistake.

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    Default actual odds / pot odds

    hi

    yep you can find more about odds etc at my other site badbeatornot.com here ...

    poker pot odds

    but basically your balancing the odds of a hand actually turning up against the odds your being offered by the pot in relation to the bet you are required to call to stay in the pot

    so its no good looking at it as 3-1 pot odds that's good enough for me ...

    good enough for what ?

    if you have virtually nothing and your chances of improving and winning the hand are 1000-1

    then even with pot odds of 100-1 then your NOT getting the right pot odds

    if however your chances of improving are 50/50 and the odds to call the pot are 3-1 then its an obvious call etc

    the problem with pot odds ... is implied odds ... especially with No Limit

    because the implied odds of a going for a long shot draw might be that the implied odds are absolutely massive because you have figured the other player has a hand he will pay you off with regardless of you hitting the nuts

    however that still doesnt change the actual odds of a card(s) turning up (your outs)

    that ... is the glorious game of poker where almost anything can be justified as playing well or playing badly & "it depends" is just about the right answer for any question about how to play poker

    cheers scrawnybob
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